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I've not been one for guitar pedals. In the 70s I was a touring musician using Orange amps. I (and everyone else I worked with) got our guitar tones out of the amps we used, typically by turning them up all the way. The Orange OR80 was especially great sounding when dimed. The only pedals onstage might be a wah, or some kind of delay/chorus. Most of the time though, we added those effects at the mixing desk.
I acquired my first Redmere Soloist in the very early 80s and that amp has the most basic effects built in. Again, no need for pedals (especially distortion pedals!).
FF to the 21st century and all of those legacy amps are hard to deal with now. I do not want to have to lug an OR80 head with a 4 x 12 cab around with me.
I bought the GOAT Sustainor and the GOAT Stereo Chorus and started to build a pedalboard about it based on the Harley-Benton Power 60XL frame (an excellent pedalboard frame with a power supply). I got a class D amplifier and was using a pair of VOX guitar speakers. It actually sounded very good. One of the VOX speakers blew though (replaced by Thomann!) and I saw myself getting into more and more pedals - something that was new to me. I investigated using the Morningstar loop switcher and MIDI controller, which allows one to make a pedal chain of 10 mono/5 stereo loops. A great system that is still not out of the question. I also experimented with the JOYO Oxford Sound pedal, an Orange amp emulator. I realized I could end up with 20 pedals just to get what I needed.
I saw that what I really needed was something more natively versatile, where I could choose the amps, FX, cab sims, whatever - and make my own presets. So even though the platform is old now, it's still being regularly updated and I was confident enough to get a Line6 Helix. The need for versatility became even more evident with the arrival of my new Red Special Limited guitar, which isn't the average guitar and has some special requirements.
I stripped the pedalboard and added the Helix with the GOAT pedals and a few more things on the board. Here is a visual record of how things look. I won't bore anyone with Rev. 1 though Rev. 3 versions of the board.
This is the board assembled with the GOAT pedals, a treble booster, tuner and wireless receiver pedal.
This was taken at a gig to prove the concept of marrying the physical pedals with the Helix. I wired up the Helix's 4 mono/2 stereo FX loops with discreet wires on the stage. It worked great but was a nightmare to setup and the amout of floor space it occupied was ridiculous.
I also got the Line6 Powercab 212 Plus, a 500 watt stereo FRFR guitar amplification system with speaker emulations and IRs (2 different things). I can select an IR or raw speaker emulation per preset on the Helix and change them on the fly when I press a button to change presets. That allows a very custom sound that really does have that "amp in the room" feel to it.
In my studio, I take the output of the Helix on 2 cables and plug them into the 1176 inputs on my patchbay (I'm looking at you @shredd) and bring that into the console (I don't use USB audio in m studio except for mastering - everything is Dante).
FRFR is very different than running the Helix into a clean guitar amp. Also, using the Powercab's speaker emulations/IRs does not translate well when the Helix is going directly into the console because the emulations are not there. I have to add some kind of cab emulation to the preset for recording. The alternative it to record off the Powercab XLR connectors which do output the sound with the emulations.
Now I sit at my dining room table with a glass of rum and some Taiwan snacks and have fun programming new presets. I have several main guitars that I use so I can really dial in presets specifally to match those guitars, and even presets for each song with specialized FX and amps for that song. This is not anything new to Helix (or other system) owners. But I'm having fun with it!
I acquired my first Redmere Soloist in the very early 80s and that amp has the most basic effects built in. Again, no need for pedals (especially distortion pedals!).
FF to the 21st century and all of those legacy amps are hard to deal with now. I do not want to have to lug an OR80 head with a 4 x 12 cab around with me.
I bought the GOAT Sustainor and the GOAT Stereo Chorus and started to build a pedalboard about it based on the Harley-Benton Power 60XL frame (an excellent pedalboard frame with a power supply). I got a class D amplifier and was using a pair of VOX guitar speakers. It actually sounded very good. One of the VOX speakers blew though (replaced by Thomann!) and I saw myself getting into more and more pedals - something that was new to me. I investigated using the Morningstar loop switcher and MIDI controller, which allows one to make a pedal chain of 10 mono/5 stereo loops. A great system that is still not out of the question. I also experimented with the JOYO Oxford Sound pedal, an Orange amp emulator. I realized I could end up with 20 pedals just to get what I needed.
I saw that what I really needed was something more natively versatile, where I could choose the amps, FX, cab sims, whatever - and make my own presets. So even though the platform is old now, it's still being regularly updated and I was confident enough to get a Line6 Helix. The need for versatility became even more evident with the arrival of my new Red Special Limited guitar, which isn't the average guitar and has some special requirements.
I stripped the pedalboard and added the Helix with the GOAT pedals and a few more things on the board. Here is a visual record of how things look. I won't bore anyone with Rev. 1 though Rev. 3 versions of the board.
New item by MJ Klein
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New item by MJ Klein
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New item by MJ Klein
photos.app.goo.gl
In my studio, I take the output of the Helix on 2 cables and plug them into the 1176 inputs on my patchbay (I'm looking at you @shredd) and bring that into the console (I don't use USB audio in m studio except for mastering - everything is Dante).
FRFR is very different than running the Helix into a clean guitar amp. Also, using the Powercab's speaker emulations/IRs does not translate well when the Helix is going directly into the console because the emulations are not there. I have to add some kind of cab emulation to the preset for recording. The alternative it to record off the Powercab XLR connectors which do output the sound with the emulations.
Now I sit at my dining room table with a glass of rum and some Taiwan snacks and have fun programming new presets. I have several main guitars that I use so I can really dial in presets specifally to match those guitars, and even presets for each song with specialized FX and amps for that song. This is not anything new to Helix (or other system) owners. But I'm having fun with it!
New item by MJ Klein
photos.app.goo.gl
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